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投稿日：2020年8月31日

1: だるまたん ★ 2020/08/31(月) 17:51:22.15 ID:R9EQakLr9

【速報】麻生派菅長官を支持へ　河野防衛相は出馬見送り
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2020年8月31日月曜午後5:05
安倍首相の後継を決める自民党総裁選で、麻生派が、菅官房長官を支持する方針を固めたことがわかった。
菅氏をめぐっては、すでに二階派が支持する方針を打ち出しているが、これに加えて、党内第2派閥の麻生派も、菅氏を支持する方針を固めた。
菅氏は、午後に細田派の細田元幹事長、参議院竹下派に影響力を持つ青木元参院会長と会談したほか、夕方には、自民党の若手議員が菅氏に直接出馬を求める予定。
一方、以前から出馬に意欲を見せていた麻生派の河野防衛相は、菅氏への支持が広がる情勢などを受けて、自らの出馬を見送る意向を固めた。

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97: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/08/31(月) 17:58:57.35 ID:4MR70Hiv0

>>1

短期間の捨て駒総理は、

石破にやらせるのがベスト。

はい

174: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/08/31(月) 18:02:09.47 ID:cBRR4Mg20

>>97
石破さん、前回の総裁選でも党員票で負けていたんだよね、安倍首相の三選が批判されていたにもかかわらず。

本当に自民党員に人気があるの？もしかしてマスコミの印象操作頼みなんじゃないの？

3: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/08/31(月) 17:51:51.48 ID:Giznk0R/0

あたりまえよ。
女系天皇を容認とか言い出すからだよ

142: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/08/31(月) 18:01:00.48 ID:YZjb0nnT0

>>3
それ全然関係ないと思うわ

455: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/08/31(月) 18:15:03.30 ID:9vaUlBhy0

>>3
その通り
総理大臣になるには、党内の多様な意見を纏める合意形成能力が必須で、総理個人の意見で独裁して良い筈がない
それに対し、女系天皇論など、党内で意見が対立して絶対に合意形成できない問題に対しては、玉虫色の落とし所を作って合意を得る事が必要

これに対し河野は、女系天皇論を頑固として譲らない姿勢を表明した
これは、総理大臣候補としては致命傷で、河野はもう永久に総理大臣にはなれない

488: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/08/31(月) 18:17:15.81 ID:YtLEg9/30

>>455
男系が駄目ならという前提で語ってたけどな

593: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/08/31(月) 18:21:16.57 ID:9SsG+6x+0

>>3
なぜだめなの？
教えて？

744: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/08/31(月) 18:28:57.94 ID:qK/a/5Fr0

>>593
何度も何度も何度も言われてるが男系で紡いできて父方を辿れば初代まで辿れる系譜だから変えたら120代以上続いた王朝が終わる。

生物学的にも男しか持ってないY遺伝子は男系で無ければ継承されないのは証明されていて女系にした時点で後は男を当て馬にすれば簡単に乗っ取ることが出来る
まあ女系天皇言う連中が中韓寄りの輩が言うのもこれが目的でしょう

799: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/08/31(月) 18:31:27.58 ID:jwrXkOSU0

>>3
これが全てだな
日本人を敵に回すとこだった

5: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/08/31(月) 17:52:26.97 ID:/KQIKQWl0

まあ、今回でより良いポストで次回だね

403: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/08/31(月) 18:11:55.15 ID:cHXuGYe40

>>5
石破が総理になったら入閣はないぞ

610: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/08/31(月) 18:22:06.69 ID:2beSzNun0

>>403
むしろ、石破になったらどんな内閣になるんだよｗ
誰こいつな人材が揃うのか？

6: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/08/31(月) 17:52:40.23 ID:Jab1nBL+0

麻生にマテ言われたな～こりゃ

71: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/08/31(月) 17:57:44.70 ID:55HzgZMz0

>>6
火中の栗だからね、いまの状況は
正直、首相の座に本来はこだわらない(サポート向きの人だし)菅さんでつないで、その間に各候補とも地盤固めしたほうが先々にいい

9: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/08/31(月) 17:53:07.64 ID:kzO9mmaW0

もう決定で良いじゃん
次は大臣決めなきゃ

15: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/08/31(月) 17:53:46.49 ID:24KLeZot0

良い判断だと思う

17: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/08/31(月) 17:53:47.25 ID:ZdsOyFIG0

まずは官房長官でしょ

18: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/08/31(月) 17:53:47.39 ID:JLArTfjo0

勝てない戦をしてもしょうがない

20: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/08/31(月) 17:54:09.47 ID:lrMbqkxZ0

石破さんとの一騎討ちか

107: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/08/31(月) 17:59:17.72 ID:uUQTbvtT0

>>20
岸田は？

138: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/08/31(月) 18:00:37.75 ID:rOXBJzBX0

>>107
岸田はコロナ禍でだいぶ下手打ってるし、
実はけっこう煙たがられてそうなんだよな

201: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/08/31(月) 18:03:16.63 ID:55HzgZMz0

>>107
ちょっと役職中に下手うった回数が多くて麻生さんに経験不足認定くらった模様

51: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/08/31(月) 17:56:42.86 ID:BF4upzPy0

もう少し力付けないとね
仕事ぶりには問題はない

65: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/08/31(月) 17:57:32.59 ID:TBxgEhxa0

まあ一年後の総裁選の出馬か

168: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/08/31(月) 18:01:56.52 ID:F4WB2fVn0

だらしないなぁ
負けるから出ないのか？
そんななら出たそうな顔しないで
黙ってろ

172: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/08/31(月) 18:02:08.35 ID:uUQTbvtT0

麻生に説得されたらしいが

178: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/08/31(月) 18:02:17.80 ID:jy5yl0M10

良い席をもらうほうが利口

188: 不要不急の名無しさん 2020/08/31(月) 18:02:40.11 ID:hrF/Gflz0

ちっと早いと判断したか？

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